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Coloneh · Feb 01, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

It dosnt seem "fair" to me that we have to pay for weapons for our heros. they take drops in combat, what are they doing with their money?

I would love to see a system to acquire hero weapons similar to the pvp-equipment-creation screen. mabye earning something like "hero credits" to creat weapons and mabye runes and inscriptions for them.

im just getting tired of running to every collector in cantha for weapons for my heroes.

-.- · Feb 01, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Its not like the are demanding you to pimp them up. Just stick on some white items you find from a random monster caresses and they will be ready to roll.

Coloneh · Feb 01, 2007, 03:38 AM // 03:38

im not saying its a big deal, but maybe heros should take less drops then henchmen, it just dosnt make much sense.

Cherno · Feb 01, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Why do you have to pay for them? I have an entire mule character loaded with hero quality golds. I have a done of greens and perfect req9s that I could give them instead and I didn't pay for a single one. Many of the items you get from the keyless (read free) chests are perfect for hero equips.

Coloneh · Feb 01, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

I dont think you see my point. maybe if you look at it from a storyline point of view? the heroes join the party to help out, and take their share of the spoils. what are they doing with this money? why cant they pay for their own weapons? the henchmen all do.

FoxBat · Feb 01, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

All the henchmen are using something close to white weapons. They didn't pay anything significant for them.

VitisVinifera · Feb 01, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

I dont think you see my point. maybe if you look at it from a storyline point of view? the heroes join the party to help out, and take their share of the spoils. what are they doing with this money? why cant they pay for their own weapons? the henchmen all do.

paying off high-interest student loans

seriously though, they take their share of the loot just like henches or real people in your party do. it makes perfect sense to me

EiS · Feb 01, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

I have Koss useing a Gold req 12 perfect fellblade is that bad? oh and if anybody wants to buy it let me know

cataphract · Feb 01, 2007, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

It dosnt seem "fair" to me that we have to pay for weapons for our heros. they take drops in combat, what are they doing with their money?

I would love to see a system to acquire hero weapons similar to the pvp-equipment-creation screen. mabye earning something like "hero credits" to creat weapons and mabye runes and inscriptions for them.

im just getting tired of running to every collector in cantha for weapons for my heroes.

I see your point. In the end heroes take a lot more than just a share in gold drops. But then again, as some people already stated, you don't have to buy them inscriptions and weapons. They can use the drops. Runes are an entirely different matter. You can either choose to pimp them up or use "Rune of Vitae" and no major/superior runes that give them -health. If all minor runes work in GvG, they will certainly work for PvE. As for equipment pimping, the free chests and occasional nice drops are the way to go. Just yesterday I gave my Koss a purple req 11 fellblade with 15>50 incription, 10% furious hilt and +5 armor pommel. I had the upgrades in my inventory for weeks and decided they'd be more useful to my monk if the warrior hero had it on him. I'll be giving Gorena Kanaxai's Axe today if I don't sell it.

lennymon · Feb 01, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I thought that for awhile also, but... heroes do far more (with a decent build) to help you acquire wealth than henchies, do exactly what you tell them to do and dont complain (except Norgu and only then about the food). The flag system and free chests more than make up for anything they 'steal' from us.

TheRaven · Feb 01, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

LOL, I just posted a similiar message in a different forum. I didn't see yours first. Yeah, I know that we don't have to give the heroes the most expensive stuff, but it does seem that they should be able to afford their own weapons. Or at least an auto upgrade to the best weapon the town crafter has to offer once you warp into town.

Just what are they doing with all that gold anyways? If I see the drunkard title pop up under Koss's name I'm gonna get suspicious.

gtnshape · Feb 01, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I know what your saying, I have all 10 chars with all heros (except rit) and there are alot of mouths to feed. I ended up farming greens for them all. Didnt cost anything but time, alot of time. I agree, the heros drops should go to you. In a pug or when you use henchies you dont buy them runes, inscriptions, or weapons they have there own already so it makes sense you dont see those drops. The heros you get them everthing but the armor itself (unless you get stolen stuff in challenge mish's). It would be cool to get there drops too

Jetdoc · Feb 01, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

It dosnt seem "fair" to me that we have to pay for weapons for our heros.

im just getting tired of running to every collector in cantha for weapons for my heroes.

How is getting a collector item "paying" for their weapons?

By the way, I'd say they are spending their money at the skill trader, since they get to use your unlocked skills for "free"...

crimsonfilms · Feb 01, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Having not a horrible elite and build like henchmen, I would gladly pay for anything that Koss or other heroes want/need.

blood4blood · Feb 01, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Different perspective: the heroes' weapon slots = extra storage spaces.
(And as an aside...one of my Koss heroes is using a max req12 fellblade too lol).

ValaOfTheFens · Feb 01, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

erm...stop whining. A goodly portion of drops aren't worth selling but are useable with a tweek here and there. Is it really so hard to equip your heroes with reasonably good drops? Heroes were billed as customizable NPC's. Meaning you kinda have to customize them to get the most out of them. Something like "Hero Credits" would undoubtedly be tied to leveling up. At level 20 that takes a bit of time if you don't frequent high-level areas. Anyway, there probably wouldn't be any max weapons at these Hero Weapon NPCs so what would be the point?

RodyPA · Feb 01, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Putting collectors' weapons on your characters is paying for them, because you have to get the materials for them. That's a percentage of your drops, going to heroes. If it was just that the heroes' items went up to max (with an inscription slot - pretty much how their armor works), I don't think anyone would have a problem with them. If you wanted a nonstandard build/item for them, you could change them yourself. As it is, they take a percentage of your drops, but to make them any better than henchmen you have to invest more into them.

That said, I think the benefit of heroes outweighs the cost of maintaining them (bearing in mind the statement in the beginning that even if you just give them dropped items, there is still a cost because you're not just selling those items), because you become much more effective with those three heroes in a zone than with henchmen. So, I don't mind it.

Franco Power · Feb 01, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

I think making it like for example, you can use the skills you unlocked in pvp on heroes, so why not be able to use runes/weapons etc that you've unlocked too? I mean, pvp skins aren't vanity skins anyway.

Coloneh · Feb 01, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

I think making it like for example, you can use the skills you unlocked in pvp on heroes, so why not be able to use runes/weapons etc that you've unlocked too? I mean, pvp skins aren't vanity skins anyway.

thats the sort of thing i was thinking, similar to the PvP armor/weapons creation. that or i want koss to sit in kaining and spam for his own damn pulsating growths all day.

Antheus · Feb 01, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

I thought someone necroed a thread from 2 months ago.

Look at it this way. If heroes are too expensive to equip, play with PUGs, those players gather their own equipment.

Scary, isn't it.

Heroes don't need perfect weapons. They do just fine with weapons they come with. Zhed never complains and never has a problem with his starter water staff while spamming Searing flames.